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Epicureanism and Stoicism: Two Models of Happiness

Both schools wanted a calm, untroubled life. Epicurus said the highest good is pleasure, mainly the absence of pain and worry, reached by wanting little and keeping good friends. The Stoics said the only true good is virtue (wisdom, courage, justice, self-control), and that we should care only about what is up to us. Each gives a different answer to moral problems such as lying.

๐ŸŽฌ Step-by-step story

  1. Two old Greek ideas of a good life. On the left, Epicurus and his garden. On the right, the Stoics and their rock in a storm.
  2. Epicurus sorted wishes into three kinds: needed (blue), extra (yellow) and empty (red). Eight wishes are here.
  3. Keep only the needed wishes. The mind goes calm and the orb is steady. Epicurus called this calm the best pleasure.
  4. The Stoics: waves are things we do not control. The gold ring is what we do control: our choices and goodness (virtue).
  5. Now compare them. Both end with a calm mind. One gets there by wanting less, the other by growing virtue.
  6. Your turn. Change the wishes, the storm and the virtue. Watch both peace scores.

Tip: drag the 3D scene to turn it. Use two fingers to zoom.

๐Ÿค” Common doubts, cleared

Is Epicurean happiness the same as having fun?

No. For Epicurus the best pleasure is a calm mind and a body without pain. Fancy fun that brings worry is not good.

Why are some wishes called "empty"?

Because they can never be filled. The more fame or money you get, the more you want, so you never rest. The red balls in the 3D show this.

If health and money do not matter to Stoics, should they be careless?

No. They prefer health and money and take care of them, but they do not call them true goods. They accept the result if things go wrong.

Can Stoics ever feel sad or happy?

Yes. They aim to remove harmful passions like rage, but keep good feelings such as care, joy for virtue and love for people.

Do the two schools ever give the same advice?

Often. Both say be honest, keep good friends, live simply and do not fear death. Their reasons differ.

Why these two schools?

Around 300 BCE Greece was in turmoil: empires rose and fell, and old city life was shaken. Two new schools offered ordinary people a way to live well in an uncertain world.

Both followed the question of earlier Greek thinkers: what makes a life go well? The word the Greeks used for a flourishing life is eudaimonia.

Pleasure in Epicurean happiness

Epicurus said pleasure is the highest good. But he did not mean wild parties. He meant a life with no pain in the body and no trouble in the mind. The calm mind is called ataraxia.

How to reach it? Sort your wishes into three groups:

Epicurus also valued friendship very highly, and said we should not fear death: when we are, death is not; when death is, we are not.

Virtue in Stoic happiness

The Stoics said the only true good is virtue, which means a good character: wisdom, courage, justice and self-control. A person with virtue is happy even when poor or ill.

Their key rule is the dichotomy of control (a split in two):

Things not up to us (health, money, praise) are called indifferents. We may prefer some of them, but they are not good or bad in themselves. Troubles come from our judgements about events, not from events. Change the judgement and the trouble shrinks. The Stoics also said we should live by reason, care for all human beings, and take part in public life.

Comparing both models

EpicureansStoics
Highest goodPleasure (no pain, no worry)Virtue (good character)
Main methodWant less, sort wishes, keep friendsControl judgements, practise virtue, accept fate
Goal of mindAtaraxia (calm)Calm and steady (apatheia means free from harmful passions)
Public lifeMostly avoid itTake part and do your duty
World viewAtoms and chance, no gods who interfereA rational ordered world (providence)

Alike: both give a practical way to calm the mind, both say fear and craving cause trouble, and both treat philosophy as a medicine for the soul.

Moral problems seen through both ethics

Notice that they often reach the same action (be honest, help friends) but for different reasons.

Try it

Step 5 of the 3D lets you set wishes, storm and virtue. Try these: wishes = 8, storm = 2, virtue = 8. Who is calmer? Now wishes = 3, storm = 9, virtue = 0. Who is calmer now? What do you learn?

At home: write 5 things that worry you. Put each in one column: "Up to me" or "Not up to me". Choose one action for each "up to me".

Key formulas and definitions

Worked examples

1. Sort into Epicurus' three groups: (a) clean water, (b) a very expensive phone, (c) becoming famous.

(a) Natural and needed. (b) Natural but not needed (or, if you crave the brand for show, empty). (c) Empty: it never feels like enough.

2. A match is cancelled because of rain. How does a Stoic react?

Rain is not up to us, so the Stoic does not rage. What is up to them is the next choice: play indoors, practise, or read. Their calm comes from controlling their judgement about the rain.

3. You find a lost wallet with money and an ID. An Epicurean and a Stoic both return it. What is the difference in their reasons?

The Epicurean may reason that keeping it would bring fear and a troubled mind. The Stoic returns it because honesty and justice are part of virtue, even if nobody would ever know.

Common mistakes

Practice quiz

1. For Epicurus the highest good is:
2. For the Stoics the only true good is:
3. Which of these is "up to us" in Stoic thinking?
4. Epicurus called empty wishes:
5. What do both schools share?

Practice: answer these yourself

Type or choose your answer, then press Check. Use a hint if you are stuck; the full solution appears after you answer.

Frequently asked questions

What is the main difference between Epicureanism and Stoicism?

Epicureans say the highest good is pleasure, mainly calm with no pain or worry. Stoics say the only true good is virtue. Both want a calm mind but take different roads.

What is the Stoic dichotomy of control?

It splits things into what is up to us (our judgements, wishes and actions) and what is not (body, wealth, others, results). Stoics care only about the first group.

Is Epicureanism about luxury?

No. Epicurus praised simple living: bread, water and friends. He said empty wishes bring worry, so we should drop them.

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